We're given no reason for him not being able to just make an honest living. He managed to outrun them at first by making his way across rooftops, though when he stopped to eat, the brothers caught up to him. Avatar: The Last Airbender is one of the best-animated shows of all time because of deep the episodes go. So the final nail in the coffin is after Wan has "had enough of humans for a while" he decides to wander the Spirit Wilds for new sights. Only because we don't have to put up with Korra. Woo, I can't wait until we get to try to erase their legacy from the public record. Something something, Ad Hominem. one of most egregious is the Avatar origin story of Book 2, Beginnings 1 and 2. boba fett: din why are there little handprints on the ship? I'm pretty sure the episode was making him the sort of selfish character that learns to be a better person thanks to some adventure, and I was able to get that. Welcome to my channel! din: grogu, why are there little handprints on the ship? He murdered innocent people and just brushed them off. And this is actually because she's not a very good public speaker. The largest comic database online, Comic Vine features Comic Reviews, News, Videos, and Forums for the latest in and more! We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Because of all this, I was more than OK with him getting kicked out into the Spirit Wilds for his crimes. There were a few scenes designed to make him seem like not a complete tool, like him feeding his friends(who just seem like lazy leeches) and wild animals instead of himself, which is really dumb if you think about it for more than a second, but at least gets across that he's supposed to be a nice guy at heart. I enjoy drawing, listening to music and have a fascination with marine life,and warm colors, Im a dog and cat person. DON’T LET THE MUGGLES GET YOU TO THE DARK SIDE — 4 elements, 1 bender: The Avatar 1.5M ratings 277k ratings The Legend of Korra was initially conceived as a twelve-episode miniseries.Nickelodeon declined the creators' pitch for an Avatar: The Last Airbender follow-up animated movie based on what then became the three-part comics The Promise, The Search and The Rift, choosing instead to expand Korra to 26 episodes. It was a pretty clutch situation(though I don't think it's possible to choke out a magic carpet spirit), and Raava could have said anything(seriously, a simple "He's evil" would have been enough) but the fact remains that he did it. Besides the several aspects that go against things stated in The Last Airbender, one of the biggest problems for me was the character of Wan himself. You neglected to mention that, while she was being poisoned by mercury, she was able to tear apart chains that were binding her without even resorting to bending. Ask me anything; Archive; I love Wan ;_; Avatar The Last Airbender avatar wan fire bender the legend of korra. Avatar Wan was a Degenerate The Legend of Korra made quite a few mistakes, and one of most egregious is the Avatar origin story of Book 2, Beginnings 1 and 2. But to his credit we see him mature later under Raava's wing. No, I remembered him, but it doesn't explain why Wan had to choose thievery to get food for him. IMO she is much better at fighting using bending than Aang. For the first Avatar, see Wan. It is about a new avatar. I think you're downplaying murder a little bit. Alright, so here’s my take on Avatar Wan, the first avatar on my first post! Plenty of them are already hypocritical to begin with. Here is a reddit thread where people are discussing the preview pages for Rise of Kyoshi, and those that have had a chance to buy the book early are giving their general non-spoiler thoughts. Are the people in the city incapable of living off crops? He saw a problem, and solved it by throwing fire at it. Living in poverty, Wan stole to survive and feed his friends. She managed to have the most beautiful s/o I’m her kingdom and everyone is just extremely jealous. Causing Raava, the Light spirit, great agony in the process, and dooming the entire world to a thousand years of darkness. He does this to help feed his presumably fellow criminal buddies. happytrekkieworld liked this Thank you! MaviertheLionturtle Hi . Details File Size: 2285KB Duration: 2.200 sec Dimensions: 498x298 Created: 1/22/2020, 6:46:29 AM The only problem is that we see no evidence of this. They refuse, and Wan burns down their gates and attacks them with fire(also conveniently he doesn't burn or kill anyone despite having no practice) without a second thought. Wan is a Jesus-esque character; he’s half-man, half-god. And then he demands the Chous "hand over the food they've been hoarding." They made so many poor decisions in these episodes, and the lack of a decent writing staff is scarily apparent. It's in sad shape, sure, but it's still a tree house. Regular guys don't murder innocent people. In all honesty, it makes them seem like they aren't strict enough. This is the episode's first big misstep for me. At least toph was portrayed well ,apart from her not just kicking the ever living shit out of kuvira, Just the first time I watched those episodes I had this feeling of âThereâs something really fucking...off about the messages/moral lessons here.â. The Legend of Korra made quite a few mistakes, and one of most egregious is the Avatar origin story of Book 2, Beginnings 1 and 2. I honestly didn't think I could hate a character so much, and yet here we are. Learn more about Redditâs use of cookies. Snoo is intrigued by this moment. wan was evil, no doubt about it. I don't really see how you can call it "constant references" when you can only bring up two real occurrences. Also, you seen Season 4? They are barely even hinted at doing anything oppressive by characters in-universe. It's sort of a bilingual pun. She was being poisoned at the same time, and her avatar state was weaker than Aang's too. If you want know more, Join me. He does this to help feed his presumably fellow criminal buddies who live in a tree house. The native element of our avatar Korra. It's pretty simple, nature is good and happy and friendly, and humans are loud, destructive and bad. The Spirits simply have too much power in the relationship, and humans have next to none. What marketing failure chose to not make an Avatar Wan video game - What marketing failure chose to not make an Avatar Wan video game – popular memes on the site ifunny.co In any case, right from the beginning of the first episode, we see him as some thief stealing food from the city's ruling family. Are they oppressed? Hell, they didn't even punish Wan after he stole from them, insulted them, assaulted them, and generally made them look like fools. She is pretty prideful. There's no reason to think he or his tree house friends can't get a job to support themselves. ^_____^ 789 notes Feb 12th, 2021. "(no joke, I really like the way that sounds) Wan however, went too far. Art by gurglings on Tumblr. but the show justifies it by hinting that this ruling family, the Chous, are supposed to be super oppressive. Besides the several aspects that go against things stated in The Last Airbender, one of the biggest problems for me was the character of Wan … It makes Wan seem less like the dashing Aladdin-esque rogue they were going for, and more like just some common thug stealing out of laziness. Details File Size: 3978KB Duration: 5.600 sec Dimensions: 498x280 Created: 6/27/2020, 5:41:24 PM If you follow any of the above links, respect the rules of reddit and don't vote or comment. He uses his experiences in the Spirit Wilds from before to make the hunters fall prey to the flora and fauna. Avatar Shitpost Site. Respect. Aang learned at 12 which was four years early. Posts; Archive; garbagechuteeee. How are the people going to defend themselves if a spirit or spirits go rogue? After stealing the fire, he shows up at the Chous palace demanding their food. Of course he's going to try to make the Chous sound bad. Wow. He is just flat out a horrible person that I found impossible to root for. I don't think Raava changed him at all, she just was mad at him and then just went on about how great he was. The fact that Netflix has now added it to their lineup is beyond exciting. And what about Jaya(not sure if I spelled that right)? clumsycapitolunicorn liked this . Now I have an idea and I want show you. I also wasn't trying to say that them living in a tree house was a good or bad thing, I was just stating a fact there. She is not a naturally good public speaker, like Varrick, Tarrlok or Amon, but her role as the Avatar forces her to make those speeches and she does them very well, especially as the series goes and she matures. He happened to come across Raava choking Vaatu while the latter was begging for his life and did what he thought was right on the spot. Her most recent fight was amazing. His name is Lynnari, a girl to born in Fire Nation. Second, the first two two are literally in the same scene. Sorry, I don't really see it. He *is known beyond this world*? Sounds like the Grasshopper shaking down the Ants for food if you ask me. See, that's the problem. After whittling the men down, Wan is finally caught by the remaining two, and it looks like he's about to receive his just deserts until one of the spirits, touched by Wan's "bravery" possesses and horribly mutates one of the remaining two hunters causing him to run screaming into the Spirit Wilds, never to be heard from again, while the final hunter returns to the Lion Turtle to deliver the news of Wan's murders. We don't see any people living in poverty or being uncomfortable, There are constant references to this [1] [2] [3]. Say what you will about the Book as a whole but those last couple episodes were filled with Korra goodness. He then went on to nearly doom the planet. Aang might have run away from his responsibility(possibly saving his life) but at least he never almost brought about the apocalypse. Iâm with you all the way here. Afterwards things just get worse. When she first arrived in republic city, she was complete blown away at the podium and didn't manage any better in Book 2. Fair enough. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. He uses his experiences in the Spirit Wilds from before to make the hunters fall prey to the flora and fauna. The argument is mainly based on a quote from Book 1, Episode 16 in which Avatar Roku says, “I have mastered the elements a thousand times in a thousand lifetimes.” Wan is the human host for Raava (he’s her Avatar). After bumbling around the death forest for a while and getting past some of the traps there and running into some spirits who tell him to screw off, he finds a wild lion-deer caught in the aforementioned hunter's net. I mentioned the lack of "show don't tell" before, and this is where it hurts the show. And to make things worse, he doesn't even protect the deer, he just throws fire at the guys and runs away, hoping they'll chase him, leaving the animal hanging in the hunter's net. Maybe if Mr. "I don't believe in working" Wan had gotten a job he and his buddies wouldn't have to live in a crappy treehouse in the outskirts of town and could have steady meals instead of eating scraps. Without showing the Chous doing something bad, they seem more like victims of Wan's greed. The whole aspect of spirits in Korra was just silly. That's kind of what happens when you have to rely on an unsuccessful thief to feed you. Where do those random guys who hate the Chous come from? If you follow any of the above links, respect the rules of reddit and don't vote or comment. As a counter point, her speech when she declared the Southern Water Tribe and her decision to keep the spirit portals open are very good, impromptu speeches. What I need is some justification for this resentment besides "I'm poor, they're rich." Other then that, he's a an asshole thief turned murderer who ended up almost destroying the world. "It's time to stop being so afraid of the Chous." i was a stouch oppoent to your korra post, but in this you are right. He runs a scam that involves pretending to want to get a job with the hunters going into the Spirit Wilds to get food for their people, pretending to chicken out, and going back to the village without returning the fire given to him by the Lion Turtle. Once again, this is where the failure of "show don't tell" comes into play. garbagechuteeee. True. I am the old lionturtle. From reddit ~heyZukohere... From reddit ~heyZukohere... Jump to OP is giving Wan shit for saving a deer. Especially when you have Jaya whining about how he's sick of eating scraps in your last scan. I'd add in a bunch of stuff from the Book 2 finale. The entire rest of the episodes is Wan trying correcting his mistake. Open in app; Facebook; Tweet; Pinterest; Reddit… Saint Peter looks at him. What is the Avatar? Do you forget that he stole for his friend Yao who couldn't venture out in the real world because of his deformities. It's hard for me to connect with some thief, but the show justifies it by hinting that this ruling family, the Chous, are supposed to be super oppressive. Azula. A matchup please? He happened to come across Raava choking Vaatu while the latter was begging for his life and did what he thought was right on the spot. And what does he say? Of course the dregs of society are going to resent the rich. https://discord.gg/E92zdkH, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. However, despite all this, this isn't what made him so awful in my eyes. Join our Discord! Well, to keep things short, Wan (the first Avatar) had his life force merged with Raava (the spirit of peace and light). Like I said in another post, I'm all for flawed characters, I love Zuko, and if we have to talk about LoK then I actually really liked Varrick, even when he was making morally dubious decisions. She's a physical powerhouse. Itâs a big reach. His incident with Raava and Vaatu cements this. This thread has been linked to from elsewhere on reddit. Wan Shi Tong is an ancient, wise, and powerful spirit who collects information for his Spirit Library. force ghost anakin seeing his son make a dramatic entrance w smoke in the back and lightsaber ignited just for the effect™: The city they live in definitely gives the impression of some serious class divide. 3,206 notes. I love to draw and to write anything (More about avatar the last airbender and legend of korra. It's a classic example of ignoring the "show, don't tell" rule. Evil? There's no reason to think he or his tree house friends can't get a job to support themselves. In the same way that Korra gains the ability to energy bend in the Avatar State thanks to Aang’s previous knowledge of the ability, Aang may have ended up in a sort of limbo between worlds. In fact, when they do catch Wan, instead of having him executed or sent to the dungeons/banished like any typical evil empire, they just toss him in some mud and let him be. Similar to how Christians believe that the holy spirit is insid… I love to draw and to write anything (More about avatar the last airbender and legend of korra. This is where the episode loses me. First of all, you only posted three scans. Right when you think he's going to get better, he get's worse. And she does most of these feats while being the first avatar since Wan to not have access to all the previous incarnations of the avatars, putting her at a distinct disadvantage compared to others. She lifts heavy shit with one arm. That's why she retreats inside herself and isn't brash or in-your-face. I think you're misleading yourself. This article is about the spirit. Bending at the very best can only push back spirits while nonbenders do no damage at all. I mean, it's a house built in a tree. In any case, right from the beginning of the first episode, we see him as some thief stealing food from the city's ruling family. She does do that. Wan made a couple of hefty mistakes but heâs never âevilâ as one user has said in this thread. One day Reddit's avatar, Snoo, dies and reaches the pearly gates of heaven. The series was expanded further in July 2012 to 52 episodes. Honestly, I have never agreed more with something. Just criminals? I can agre with the dumb kid bit, but can you really say he had a good heart? Please don't think I'm pedantically correcting you, rather offering a "yes, but...". happy lunar new year!!!! I don't understand how anyone can really like the character, he honestly sounds more like a villain. Oh hey its that guy who hates Korra and believes in segregation. Wan was meant to displaythe very fundamentals of the Avatar spirit IMO. I edit AVATAR content with videos on The Last Airbender & The Legend of Korra. As for the scans themselves, the first two are just Wan trying to convince Good Guy Jaya to commit a crime. His goal is to fight Vaatu, the spirit of chaos and darkness. 3,206 notes Apr 4th, 2016 ... Pinterest; Reddit; Mail; Embed; Permalink ; fantasmadaagnes liked this . A recent Avatar: The Last Airbender fan theory from Reddit contends that the Avatar might not only inherit powers from their own past lives but also from their friends in those lifetimes as well. Finally all pictures we have been displayed in this site will inspire you all. It makes no sense that none of them could find work to sustain themselves. If you want to look at good public speakers in the series, take a look at Tarrlok, Varrick, Tenzin, or even Zaheer. He seemed like a pretty able-bodied kid, yet he seemed happy leeching off Wan. We don't know. It's a classic example of ignoring the "show, don't tell" rule. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CharacterRant community, Come here to talk about fictional characters, fictional events, concepts, objects, etc. Wan is literally attacking people just trying to feed their families. The title makes sense now, huh? And you know what? Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna. If these guys are so evil, why are they letting this punk constantly rob them? No, humans are the bad ones for trying to use animals for what nature intended them to be used for, and they deserve no mercy. "Presumably." In this case the connotation is that he's really, really ancient. If most avatars don't know that they're the avatar until 16 that means they can only bend one element until that point so Korra bending three elements at age 4 is incredible.